Wayne
I was at a VW event in Ottawa Ontario and met a gentleman with a Type 181. He told me that this is a different vehicle than the famous VW Thing. Do any of you Thing owners know the differences?
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Marc
181s go by several names around the world (Mehrzweckwagen, Kübel, Pescaccia, Safari & Thing) - and then there's the type 182 Trekker.
So far as I know the terms "Thing" and 181 are 100% interchangeable in North America (not real sure about Canada though). I doubt that the gentleman's car is as unique as he seems to think it is, but the places to find some Thing aficionados who should know for sure would be http://www.shoptalkforums.com/viewforum.php?f=32 and http://www.type181registry.com/
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If He has a VW type 181 - He has a VW thing....

If it was bought in Europe , it was sold as a type 181...

But as Marc said, they are the same "thing"... pun not intended...

RHD were type 182 sold as the trekka....

Some were made in Germany and then Mexico...

Never Sold in Australia....

They would have sold well down here.....

There are probably  only a handfull of type 181-182s in Australia....

 

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The early type 181s had rear Swing axles and reduction boxes etc

and were made in Germany.

where the later VW Things had IRS rear suspension and Elephants feet tail lamps.. and were made in Mexico..

Many were also made in the Volkswagen-Mercedes factory in Indonesia from CKD kits.

 

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Maybe the gentleman had a German type 181 with swing axles and 5 stud wheels and reduction boxes....

with the early type 2 tail lamps....

 

The Mexican made ones had the IRS rear end and naturally no reduction boxes... and maybe 4 stud wheels??

and the Large 1303S tail lamps....

 

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Wayne

I recently saw this vehicle at a VW event. It sort of looks like a Thing, and has the VW guages inside but it's called a Bombardier Iltis.

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they are the same "thing". i have a '74 that i am in the process of restoring. mine was made in mexico. the thing was only sold in the us in 73 and 74. as i learn more about them, i will pass the info.

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Hi Wayne,

The Iltis was designed by Audi and made by Volkswagenwerk , and sold to the German and Austrian Armed Forces... in 1978..

A few were sold to the general public, but they don't really look like a "normal" 4 wheel drive... IMHO..

It was designed and made as an Army Vehicle , not to a price...

So I believe they were very expensive...

They have nothing to do with the VW thing or type 181..

Only made in LHD... and were a sort of replacement to the 181 Thing..

The four wheel drive system came from a modified Auto Union Munga which later developed into the Audi Quatro 4 wheel drive system.

 

Bombadier has made other vehicles too, can't remember what the others were... maybe Jeeps ?? Army Vehicles...

 

The Canadian Government Bought the rights and Tooling for the Iltis from VolksWagenWerk... in 1983 and made 6000 units for the Canadian Army in 1984-85.

Production was moved back to Europe in 1987 where a final run was made for the German and Belgian Armed Forces.

Total European production was 10,000 vehicles.

I don't know who made the final Iltis's in Europe?? VW ??

I have seen one of these Vehicles in Australia ..

 

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There is a VW type 182 [RHD 181] for sale in Australia for $35,000Aus

so, You can see they are very rare over here.

Beetle cabriolets also sell for very high prices..

and Karmann Ghias cabriolets too... $25,000++

 

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