slomarsh

Hello to everyonel,

1972 standard Beetle here.  Wondering where the turn signal flasher relay is located.  Or, is it integrated in the emergency flasher unit?   The 1972 owner's manual is useless -Doesn't even show the fuse locations!

Having a problem with turn signals on the car.  Emergency flashers work normally and all four external turn signal bulbs lights blink just fine.   However, when activiting the turn signal lever right or left , nothing happens except the speedo dash green indicator lights up. In other cars usually if the flasher is bad the exterior light will light up but not blink.  Here they don't except with the emergency flasher. 

The fuses are all fine.

Thanks for your time,
slomarsh
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Wayne
I'd put the four ways on a follow the click sound to the relay. If the turn signal relay is different than the 4-way relay it should be close by.
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slomarsh

Thanks.   Naturally,  that was one of the first things I tried.  No prob finding the emergency flasher relay.  Only the headlight relay nearby and 2 empty relay slots.

Guess I'll start tracing the wires.  Maybe a missing relay in one of those slots.

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ainokea
The 3 prong relay is under the hood behind the wire harness fuse panel cover if it's installed. Depending on your production date, it should be located on the left, driver's side,  mounted on a  metal beam or on a small relay panel. There may be a couple of relays installed look for a 3 prong relay, that is the only 3 prong relay that's on there. If replacing the relay does'nt resolve the problem then you've either got a bad turn switch, an issue with the wiring, or both.

Ainokea  
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ainokea
I'm assuming you have the relay panel otherwise you'd have three wires that were hanging going no where. Look under the relay panel for  white, brown, and blue, wires, without a relay being plugged into that socket. I don't have the relay pt. no. but you have to have the right one to make it work.
Ainokea
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ainokea

If you don't already have the pt. no. you might try this one.111 953 227A that's the number VW used when they added the relay panei in 71.

Ainokea

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slomarsh

Thanks for the tips guys.

 

I noticed the emergency flasher knob on the dash appears to have several wires attached to it back side in the trunk.  Some look like they may be corroded.  The 3 prong relay is there on the relay panel ok and clicks when the emergency flasher knob is pulled.  I'll disconnect the battery and clean the connections behind the flasher knob.  If that fails I'll and trace them back to the fuse panel.  Seems odd the flasher works fine on emergency 4 way mode but not for left or right turn.

 

 

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ainokea
Check the turn signal switch wiring and the switch itself. Might be some of the wires are in the wrong positions, could be the switch is bad, or as you mentioned, corroded connections.
Ainokea
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slomarsh

 

 

Thought I would share my laughable frustrations with you guys.

 

I unscrewed the emergency flasher knob and the aluminum screw retainer.

So far, so good.

Went around to the trunk side to pull the now loose flasher unit which was burried deep with no slack in the wiring.  Soooo, had to partially remove the fresh air vent unit and the glove box liner just to reach it.

Finally, grabbed the unit to pull it out slightly to inspect it and it fell apart!    Stared like an idiot looking at the pieces thinking "hey, this doesn't make sense where does the knob screw into?"   Finally, by accident I moved the fresh air duct and it rattled.  Inside was the rest of the guts of the emergency flasher unit which had somehow shot into there when it fell apart.

 

the quest for turn signals continues...........

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ainokea
Well that settles it, you should get a new 4 way flasher.
Ainokea
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